Casualties mount as Ukraine’s counteroffensive continues sluggish progress

Amna Nawaz:

For extra on the state of the battle, we get two views.

Michael Vickers was a senior Protection Division official beneath Presidents George W. Bush and Obama and served because the CIA’s chief strategist throughout the Reagan administration. He’s the creator of “By All Means Out there: Memoirs of a Life in Intelligence, Particular Operations, and Technique.” And Jennifer Cafarella is the chief of employees and nationwide safety fellow on the Institute for the Research of Battle. That is a suppose tank that tracks army developments.

Welcome to you each.

And, Mike, I need to start with you and the counteroffensive that we have been simply reporting on. You heard President Zelenskyy there say they’re succeeding. What’s your evaluation? Is he proper?

Michael Vickers, Former U.S. Undersecretary of Protection for Intelligence: Sure, I believe they maintain the strategic initiative, however the counteroffensive goes slower and is proving tougher than I believe many hoped.

And whereas it is essential to notice Ukraine hasn’t dedicated its main drive but, they have not been in a position to make a lot progress in opposition to a dug-in enemy, numerically superior enemy, that is had quite a lot of time to organize defenses.